房地产 x TED|绿色，引导设计，成就品质

<section style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="padding-top: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "></section><blockquote><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "><p style="padding-top: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; text-align: left; text-indent: 0em;"><br /></p><section class="" style="display: inline-block; width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="text-align: center; font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgba(4, 4, 4, 0);">8月20日&nbsp;20:00</span></section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgba(4, 4, 4, 0);">绿色，引导设计，成就品质</span></section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgba(4, 4, 4, 0);">深圳万都时代绿色建筑技术有限公司创始人、一级注册建筑师、住建部绿色建筑评价标识</span></section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgba(4, 4, 4, 0);">专家委员会专家、深圳市绿色建筑专家咨询委员会委员，苏先生</span></section></section></section></section></section><p><br /></p></section></blockquote></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; margin-left: 1em; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="" style="display: inline-block; padding: 5px 10px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgba(4, 4, 4, 0);">苏先生聊聊绿色如何从“痛”成为卖点？</span></section></section></section></section></section><section style="width: 0px; border-top-width: 0.5em; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(140, 65, 53); border-right-width: 1em; border-right-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(140, 65, 53); border-bottom-width: 0.5em !important; border-bottom-style: solid !important; border-bottom-color: transparent !important; border-left-width: 1em !important; border-left-style: solid !important; border-left-color: transparent !important; box-sizing: border-box;"></section></section><section style="width: 3em; height: 2em; margin-top: -2em; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="" style="float: left; padding-right: 3px; line-height: 1; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 44.8px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;">绿</section></section></section></section></section><section class="" style="box-sizing: border-box; min-height: 4.5em !important;"><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;">色建筑不是“痛”点，而是可以成为卖点：绿色，引导设计，成就品质——优化规划、优化建筑、优化景观</section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;">苏先生：为什么选择这个主题作为切入点呢？基于房地产开发的关注点的变化，以及16年的研发实践，我将绿色建筑的发展划分为6个阶段：<span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">1、绿色标识2、成本控制3、绿色技术（设计、采购、工程、物业）4、性能提升(关注客户) 5、绿色地产(基于生态产业链)&nbsp; 6、绿色体验 (面向绿色消费)。</span>大部分开发商，目前处于第一阶段；部分开发商，开始关注性能提升；少数行业领先开发商对于绿色地产、绿色体验进行探索及实践。我选择第四个阶段与大家交流。性能提升是绿色建筑的转折点，开始关注客户。而性能提升，设计扮演重要角色。对4个PP成果，我先将简洁介绍；稍后大家对感兴趣可交流。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></p></section></section></section></section><section style="clear: both; box-sizing: border-box;"></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 1; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="width: 0px; display: inline-block; opacity: 0.6; border-left-width: 0.6em; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(249, 110, 87); border-top-width: 0.5em !important; border-top-style: solid !important; border-top-color: transparent !important; border-bottom-width: 0.5em !important; border-bottom-style: solid !important; border-bottom-color: transparent !important; box-sizing: border-box;"> </span><span style="width: 0px; display: inline-block; border-left-width: 0.6em; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(249, 110, 87); border-top-width: 0.5em !important; border-top-style: solid !important; border-top-color: transparent !important; border-bottom-width: 0.5em !important; border-bottom-style: solid !important; border-bottom-color: transparent !important; box-sizing: border-box;"> </span> </section><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; line-height: 1.2; padding-left: 3px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;">案例分享</section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">案例1：一个实际项目——海南养生度假酒店。</strong></span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">万宁距离三亚很近，全年气候宜人，宗地内有山有水；外部交通便捷，如何营造一个高品质的室内外环境？开发商的最大痛点：西侧动车，东侧高速；噪声影响很大，如何解决？需要权衡协调场地“阻声”、“引风”需求的矛盾，从整体规划角度采取有效措施，既不影响通风，又有效隔绝噪音。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><span style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(4, 4, 4); box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="font-size: 14px; box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></span></strong></span></span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(4, 4, 4); box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="font-size: 14px; box-sizing: border-box;">目标：</span></strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; text-decoration: underline; line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;">隔声，不隔风——区内声环境达到区域声环境1类标准，区内、建筑类自然通风良好。方法：利用技术手段，与规划紧密合作。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></span></span></p><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">基于规划设计分析，进行了两轮模拟分析，对规划评估及优化。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(4, 4, 4); box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">第一轮规划分析：</strong>东</span>侧设置公寓主要考虑阻挡高速公路噪声影响，但阻挡了噪声同时也把室外自然风阻挡在外，对区内品质有所降低。<span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; color: rgb(4, 4, 4); box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">优化分析：</strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;">区内风环境优化：根据分析地形现状及区位优缺点，通过调整东侧公寓位置及西侧公寓底层架空，使原有40%无风区优化至只有10%的无风区，优化了室外风环境影响。</span><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">区内声环境优化：</strong>结合现状地形，项目东侧设置8~10m隔声护坡，使区内隔声效果提升30%和50%，整体改善噪声的影响，满足噪声标准2类要求，提升了住区品质。</span></p><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">第二轮规划分析：</strong>东侧公寓取消，布置到西侧，临高速一侧结合地形采用堆坡；西侧公寓隔断了动车对于区内低密度建筑的影响。通过将公寓的功能房间安排在东南方向，看区内景观，并与高速保持最大距离；实现较好的室内声环境。其成效将在后续第三版成果体现。<strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">技术手段：</strong>分析了不同主导风向下的8种工况，不仅考虑风压，还考虑了热压。<strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">优化分析：</strong>1）各主导风向下影响下，区内均能够通过水系、街巷形成三纵一横的通风廊道。区内公共空间风速宜人，行走舒适、通风良好、空气品质高。2）区内80%以上建筑物表面有合理风压，能够满足户内自然通风的需求。3）区内各楼栋均能够满足声环境质量标准的要求（2/4a类标准）；大部分达到0类标准的要求，疗养院的级别（一般住宅区要求2类标准，临交通干道满足4类标准即可）。对于敏感点，提出改进意见，将通过建筑、景观进行实现；并将进一步模拟分析评估。</span></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; 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box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">案例2：风光模拟——优化建筑设计——通过被动式设计，主动提升楼型的通风、采光性能。</strong></span></p><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">背景及目的：</strong>基于十字户型楼型研究，对项目两种楼型现有方案设计，利用模拟分析软件，对楼型通风及采光性能分析，提出性能提升建议，指导施工图出图。</span></p><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">风环境性能分析：</strong>通过室外风环境分析，分析楼型的旋转角度对进风口的影响，对于板楼而言，保持主导风向与楼型成90°角（垂直）为最佳进风角度。基于室外楼型角度的建议，对室内门、窗、内墙进行优化分析，提出门窗开启位置、大小建议和内墙空间布局的建议来提升室内换气次数，提升业主体验感受。利用建筑空调机位作为导风板，通过增加角窗或通风格栅优化通风路径，达到换气次数的提高。人在生活中，大部分的时间都会紧闭户门来保障家庭隐私，但这种情况会导致非穿堂风户型室内居住品质的降低，如何优化户门设计也是重中之重。</span></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; 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box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">案例3：海绵园区+生态水环境——优化景观设计</strong></span></p><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">由于城市洪涝带来的巨大人、财损失，国家提出海绵城市并大力倡导，各地相继发布海绵城市的相关政策及标准；这两年海绵城市从上至下，被热捧，大行其道。<strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">海绵城市的核心是什么？</strong>实质上就是合理地控制降在我们城市下垫面上的雨水径流，使雨水就地消纳和吸收利用。要想达到海绵，也是有标准的；需要将70%以上的雨水留在宗地内，也就是全年雨水仅有30%进入市政；这与目前城市的雨水排放现状基本是相反。实现海绵园区的技术体系：6个字，渗、滞、蓄、净、用、排。通过多层次、多类型技术措施，实现源头消减、中途传输、末端调蓄。<strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">主要技术措施：</strong>下凹绿地、透水铺装、生态水系、植草沟、雨水花园...... 这些理念及技术措施将开始影响景观设计，并将逐渐改变景观设计的理念，将性能提升到一个很重要的地位。多年前，天津东丽湖、深圳万科城，结合生态示范、绿色建筑就进行了雨水径流控制的实践，其中天津东丽湖一期能达到85%以上的雨水径流控制。成都五龙山项目，是西南第一个绿色三星设计标识，即将拿到三星运行标识；其生态水环境是一大亮点，采用水生态修复工艺，能做到清澈见底。</span></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; 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float: left; margin-top: 1em; font-size: 24px; color: rgb(249, 110, 87); box-sizing: border-box;">A</section></section><section class="" style="display: inline-block; width: 70%; height: 1px; vertical-align: middle; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />嘉宾：</strong>基于室外楼型角度的建议，对室内门、窗、内墙进行优化分析，提出门窗开启位置、大小建议和内墙空间布局的建议来提升室内换气次数，提升业主体验感受。现在这个工作应该没什么人做吧？要在规划阶段就介入？<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">是的，现在这方面能系统开展的很少。在规划介入最好，因为建筑前后风压影响通风效果。</span></p></section></section></section><p><br /></p><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style="box-sizing: border-box;" powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">地下室顶板上的海绵体系有什么意义？</span>我这个不是反问，这种海绵怎么控制70%导入真正的地下？<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>地下室楼板上依然有不同高度的覆土，能起到较好的渗水作用</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>因为全部集中在了管道？<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>我们做过计算，20mm左右的降雨能渗透到土层以下不到300mm</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>我的意思，顶板上的水径流，并没有真正解决地下室周边土地渗水要求<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>是的，比较好的做法，径流可以引导到周边没有地下室的土壤部分，进行深度渗透</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>目前的地下室满铺项目有什么好的引导水流进入底板以下的土地的办法？而现在为了防渗漏，万科的做法是地库周边再挖沟把水引导走，这个比较头痛。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>现在才用砾石沟、井之类的渗透做法，实际的案例比较少。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>现在很多项目底部都是混凝土自防水和内部疏水层设计，前段时间和万科考察，他们强烈建议地库周边挖沟排水。所以这是很矛盾的地方。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">其实，比较好的有一个做法，在区内地势较低的地方，设置水系，既收集雨水，也是水景。</span>谢谢信息，这个我要好好研究下。相信能有很好的解决方案。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>实际结果是做了海绵城市以后，90%的水都被导走了，这个是实际项目的情况，做海绵的设计师向我抱怨。这是实际情况，这是通过了海绵审批的项目，所有方案都是政府要求的。其他没什么，因为海绵全国也没多少项目可以参考。结果就是完成了一个报建项目，对城市地下水位没有多少恢复，方案对非全地下室项目不错，全地下室基本就是浪费钱。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">海绵刚刚兴起，专家不一定有实践经验；政府喜欢群涌而上，我其实很害怕这点，缺乏消化、深化的时间。又容易伤害了市场。</span>万科城四期，国内第一个三星设计标识和第一个三星运营标识，我做了6年时间，非常受益。 不一定，后续我们会验证。</p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; 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box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.8; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.6; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</span></strong><span style="line-height: 1.6; text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">光导管技术</span><span style="line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;">，其实很不错的，后期维护费用很低。</span><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>光导管效果不错，是一项实用技术。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>是，光导管，最早很多国外的工厂用的多，，现在市政隧道，和住宅，共建都在用啦。很不错。一次性投入。比太阳能好，后期维护费很低。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>光导管，现在比较成熟了，根据管径、深度、工艺，一个光导管，价格从2000－6000元。<span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">现在做生态，可以赚钱的；海南最近的政策，三星运行标识，返还基础设施配套费的40％，海口、三亚，基础设施配套费，220元一平米，也就是三星项目，可返还88元一平米，相当可观。</span></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: center; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-left: 2px; font-size: 20.8px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section><section style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-bottom: 2px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.8; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.6; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;">嘉宾A：但是非常有意思的现象是，万科近十年的项目中，似乎对水景已经成为了一个禁忌。是这样的吗？请教一下。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;">嘉宾B：原先上海第五园规划里有挺大的水系的，但是到了最后阶段，全部取消了，好伤心。 <br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />苏先生：<span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">好像没有明确的禁止；只是从物业角度，维护保养成本高，许多硬质水景平时是摆设。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;">嘉宾A：这是非常遗憾的。中式社区里没有水，少了三魂。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />苏先生：<span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">其实是有解决方案的，我最近就在思考这件事，如何从物业角度来系统解决。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;">嘉宾：今天您的专题非常有前瞻性和操作性，令人耳目一新，深受启发。非常感谢！</p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: center; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-left: 2px; font-size: 20.8px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section><section style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-bottom: 2px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.8; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.6; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 1; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="width: 0px; display: inline-block; opacity: 0.6; border-left-width: 0.6em; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(249, 110, 87); border-top-width: 0.5em !important; border-top-style: solid !important; border-top-color: transparent !important; border-bottom-width: 0.5em !important; border-bottom-style: solid !important; border-bottom-color: transparent !important; box-sizing: border-box;"> </span><span style="width: 0px; display: inline-block; border-left-width: 0.6em; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(249, 110, 87); border-top-width: 0.5em !important; border-top-style: solid !important; border-top-color: transparent !important; border-bottom-width: 0.5em !important; border-bottom-style: solid !important; border-bottom-color: transparent !important; box-sizing: border-box;"> </span> </section><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; line-height: 1.2; padding-left: 3px; font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;">项目分享</section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>海南万科低碳楼</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="line-height: 3em; box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong><span style="line-height: 3em;">建成多久了？</span></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>前一段调研了几个我们做的项目，海南森林公园及五龙山，都是绿色三星。以上是海南森林公园，2009开始建设，目前真的有丛林的感觉。目前还在建。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>各地都出台补贴政策啦，但有的是为拿设计标识，没有意义，不以后期运营为目的。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box;"><img data-s="300,640" data-type="png" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvOerf6e2yrkSIDqUtJ9vsQHicW6Km7x0bOZLEfbwAdW4UqbxCKDQEPzdg/0?wx_fmt=png" data-ratio="0.7507002801120448" data-w="357" /><br /><img data-s="300,640" data-type="png" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvOmlY8oKyx3pBVyicbxfGcxOv4lgenBZ6HC4JtnYJeoibWK8x5cSamibcxg/0?wx_fmt=png" data-ratio="1.3345724907063197" data-w="269" /><br /></p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: center; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-bottom: 2px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.6; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.8; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-left: 2px; font-size: 20.8px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.6; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>成都五龙山项目。成都五龙山的水生态修复，是成都第一个；也是万科的第一个大规模的水生态修复工艺项目。</p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" text-align: center; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "><img data-s="300,640" data-type="png" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvOMP21iaDL8HwZVHrPyiaBgZPkfgznLHhmiccJPz3pdQYDFy10apwTrJcOA/0?wx_fmt=png" data-ratio="0.5855421686746988" data-w="415" /><br /></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: center; box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-bottom: 2px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; opacity: 0.4; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.6; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; opacity: 0.8; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section><section style="width: 0.6em; height: 0.6em; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 6px; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(249, 110, 87);"></section></section><section class="" style="display: inline-block; vertical-align: bottom; margin-left: 2px; font-size: 20.8px; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="line-height: 2; font-size: 13px; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 2em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>广州万科云城的光导管</p></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" text-align: center; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" text-align: center; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "><img data-s="300,640" data-type="png" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvO85GfQlulviaPutTrlpRps1ZY8nj8s1k85Xpm5bJeJicVZx8e2OCkeByA/0?wx_fmt=png" data-ratio="0.7507418397626113" data-w="337" /><br /><img data-s="300,640" data-type="png" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvOrU3CDgoERTXc3cKnYT9p86wIEbm56MRg8ko6gTEJfEb7ErSu9BGEyg/0?wx_fmt=png" data-ratio="0.7492447129909365" data-w="331" /><br /></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>光导管是干什么用的？</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>弯曲也可以采光，我在书里好像看到过</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">是，通过世外光照，将光导入地下室，作为照明用，代替电器灯具。将光线引入地下室，用于照明；以上是两种安装方式。</span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong>晚上照明是否还可以继续使用？<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>不能。</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 3em;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">嘉宾：</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;">也就是说，光管需要和地库内的照明系统结合使用，是这样理解的吧？</span><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">苏先生：</strong>白天常开的照明可以用光导管，万科现在用着很多，现在市政工程也在大量用。<span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">城市建设及使用中的问题还是很多的，绿色、节能、海绵任重道远。</strong></span></p><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="text-decoration: underline; box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;"><p><br /></p><p><img data-s="300,640" data-type="jpeg" data-src="http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/AJkYaTAujIwpP2FQO3taP86Mutc2SJvOsEZQkaHAMAe702EibX3K3jNpL59lzA30QV1Ndx3fUZxwibnWYM6cricrQ/0?wx_fmt=jpeg" style="" data-ratio="1.4226666666666667" data-w="750" /></p><p><br /></p><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></strong></span></section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" text-align: center; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "></section></section></section><br /></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" box-sizing: border-box; "><section class="" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 2; box-sizing: border-box;"><section style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;" /></section></section></section></section><section class="Powered-by-XIUMI V5" style=" box-sizing: border-box; " powered-by="xiumi.us"><section class="" style=" text-align: center; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; box-sizing: border-box; "></section></section></section><p><br /></p>